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DeepDive Sneak Preview #1: Emily St. John Mandel
DeepDive instructor Emily St. John Mandel on the advice that she would give to her younger self if she could go back in time
Hi there,
DeepDive’s first course, How to Write a Novel—due out later this year—features dialogues with dozens of today’s leading writers.
After all, who better to learn from than people who are doing the work and having real success?
Emily St. John Mandel is one of our instructors, and we couldn’t be more thrilled.

Emily St. John Mandel
Emily is one of the finest writers at work today. Her bestselling novels include Station Eleven, The Glass Hotel, and Sea of Tranquility.
Both Sea of Tranquility and The Glass Hotel were chosen by President Barack Obama for his annual list of favorite books.
The Glass Hotel was shortlisted for the Scotiabank Giller Prize and has been translated into 26 languages.
And Station Eleven, which was a finalist for a National Book Award and the PEN/Faulkner Award, won the 2015 Arthur C. Clarke Award, among other honors, has been translated into 36 languages, and aired as a limited series on HBO Max.
Here’s a preview from one of Emily’s episodes in How to Write a Novel:
DeepDive: If you look back on your younger self when you were just starting out as a writer—if you could give that younger version of yourself some good advice, what would it be?
Emily St. John Mandel: I would tell my younger self to treat it more seriously and act like it's my job. When I first started out as a writer, my job was working in a retail stockroom in Montreal. That's what I was doing and where I was living when I started my first novel. And I was kind of lackadaisical about writing. It was just this vague notion I had for what to do with my life because I'd been writing since I was a kid, as a hobby. And I’d read a lot of books.
I'd gone to school for contemporary dance and graduated from this excellent conservatory program in Toronto. But by the time I graduated at 21, I didn't want to be a dancer anymore. Dancing was an obsession that had grabbed hold of me for all my life to that point, and then I let it go. And I was like: now what? So I thought: Well, maybe I could be a writer. Maybe I could take that more seriously. But it took four years to write my first novel, which is long for me.
And a lot of that came down to just not taking myself seriously as a writer of fiction. There would be periods of time when I was very immersed in it and making a ton of progress. But then there were other times when I would put it down for a month and barely think about it.
It's tricky to talk about because you don't want to sound totally mercenary, as though you're writing a novel in the same way that somebody would, I don't know, sell insurance, you know? But ultimately you're just sitting down at your desk and writing. And I think the more disciplined you can be about that and the more you can treat it as your job, the better off you’ll be. So I would tell my younger self to take it more seriously—to take myself more seriously—and write every day if I could.
How to Write a Novel is for people who are serious about writing and determined to get their books done.
We’ll continue to preview the course in future editions of this newsletter.
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All the best, & more soon,
Brad
Brad Listi
Founder | DeepDive
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Quote of the day:

Zadie Smith, by Ben Bailey-Smith
When I write I am trying to express my way of being in the world. This is primarily a process of elimination: once you have removed all the dead language, the second-hand dogma, the truths that are not your own but other people's, the mottos, the slogans, the out-and-out lies of your nation, the myths of your historical moment— once you have removed all that warps experience into a shape you do not recognize and do not believe in—what you are left with is something approximating the truth of your own conception.